Voice Dialogue / J'aime ona Pangaia

Central to Voice Dialogue is the concept of what is called ‘the Aware Ego process’, relative to inner selves. It’s born when a person both neutrally embraces the reality of a self and ‘separates’ from being identified with it. This allows one to investigate unimpeded the experience of other selves as well, in particular, ones that seem to exist in opposition. Opposite perspectives, or perhaps vulnerable / sensitive vs. powerful / defense-protective, etc. And then likewise, embrace and differentiate from those as well.

We experience life through these archetypal forms, we build stories around experience (particularly with the ones we’ve been primarily identified with, and those stories become almost a concrete ‘glue’ to reinforce those identifications. Interestingly, other selves typically have different stories or perspectives on memories.

The invitation to be free, to at least momentarily be unattached awareness is central to VD practice.
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All this to say, that after the irrevocable and unsought for awakening, in the mind’s attempt to understand this, I came across terms like neti neti and ‘progressive’ vs. direct vs. pathless path. (Mostly learned from Rupert Spira as I sought someone who could articulate about this,) I realized that Voice Dialogue practice was inherently a neti neti practice. I’m not this, I’m not that, I’m all this, I’m all that. Embracing & disidentifying (which is not rejecting.)

Yes, when we’re identified with a self / part, we are still and always aware. However awareness is finitely channeled in the form of some self. We eventually come to recognize that awareness is not an attribute of a self. It is omnipresent and ultimately indescribable.

Voice Dialogue is a psychological path. Most people at least start out with VD to get help resolving inner or outer conflicts. Some continue on out of curiosity- how else can I be? Eventually, with enough of this inquiry, awareness itself, unmitigated by forms, becomes more obvious and natural.

Early on, as people separate their identification from very habitual primary self systems, they ask “If that’s not essentially who I am, who am I? (Better question: what am I?) At at some point, on their own, they *know*, I am unspeakable awareness that knows experiences in these various ways (or ‘forms’, or constructs).

While talking about this aware knowing, I’ve borrowed some spiritual terminology (neti neti, Brahman). However, I don’t actually see this cessation of me-ego personhood, this constant rebirthing (me again!) and reformulating, this fundamental awareness of being, this awakening within the ‘dreaming’ as ‘spiritual’.

The construct ‘I’ had about reality abruptly ended. And now it all seems quite natural that it did. That it w/could. That infinite reality being aware both always IS / knows itself and happens as finite experience.

How deep can you go, in knowing yourself?

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No matter how open, peaceful, or loving you are, others can only connect with you at the depth they’ve reached within themselves. As Carl Jung once said, “Everything that irritates us about others can lead us to an understanding of ourselves.” People’s capacity to meet you with understanding, compassion, or vulnerability is limited by the inner work they’ve done on their own soul. You can offer all the light and love in the world, but if someone hasn’t ventured into their own shadows, they will only be able to meet you on the surface. This is a profound truth about human relationships—the depth of connection is not just about what you bring, but about how deeply the other person has explored their own heart. It’s the essence of clarity: understanding that while you may strive for connection, others can only offer what they’ve found in themselves. Accepting this can bring peace, for you realize that everyone’s journey is their own, and sometimes, they simply haven’t gone deep enough to meet you where you stand. Discord Sever in the link in bio 🔥Want to learn how to grow your social media presence on platforms like Instagram, TikTok, and more? Comment “Guide” To Learn

The way is every way.
Fiction says I have to decide.
You’ll simply move.
The story keeps being invented.
Smile as you watch the character
take credit. Right on to the end.
You’ve always been Here.

For my Thai community! North Americans and Europeans can let me know if you'd like me to schedule one for our shared time zones!

Interested in Understanding Dreaming Experience?

Join J'aime ona Pangaia in this 6 week series!

Psychologically, dreams symbolically show us what we’ve been unable or unwilling to recognize about (our) life consciously. Without the defensive interference of the conscious mind, truths are revealed, new and alternate directions are pointed out, obstacles are shown, and emotions are imaged and metabolized. Dreams are the other journey of our lives.

A series of 6 sessions: taught in English with Thai translation available
Tuition is $6,000 Thai baht payable by Paypal or direct bank 2 bank transfer
Zoom link sent upon payment
Starts Sundays, Feb 25 through March 24 - 8 am - 10 am.

I'll be starting this new 6 week dream class series to orient you to the meaningful things to pay attention to in dreams and importantly, why they are significant to understanding your dreams. All that is requited is your curiosity.

Topics covered include: types of dreams, features of dreams, use of objective, mythic, symbolic and subjective meanings of dream images and the ways in which our various 'inner selves' appear in our dreams. Once these elements are reviewed, you'll also learn how to take what you're learning from your dreams to guide you in new directions in your waking experience. My approach also stretches into examining dreams from a more subtle, consciousness-oriented perspective: is there an end to dreaming, and, what dreams?

This is a good starting point. After this class concludes, there will be another, followup group to practice what you're learning along with other dreamers that will be announced soon afterwards.

I've been working with my and others' dreams for the past 30++ years, and draw from my training, knowledge and extensive experience with Voice Dialogue, Jungian Studies, Dream research, Archetypal Psychology and non dualism.

Please register by emailing me at [email protected]

Talk Doesn’t Cook The Rice

Talking about Consciousness and actively engaging in Awareness abiding practice come from two different kinds of inner ways of being in life. One is intellectual, the other, practical. Each in their own way and time will be helpful.

How do you cook rice? Here’s one method. Put one cup of rinsed rice in two cups of water, turn on the heat, slow boil until the water level is just below the top of the rice, turn off the heat, cover and let the remaining water be absorbed over the next 10 -15 minutes. Serve.

Now you have information, instructions. But do you have cooked rice? No, of course not. Talking doesn’t cook the rice. Understanding how rice is cooked, doesn't cook the rice. We have to actually do the activity of cooking the rice. Only then do we have rice to eat.

How might we apply this for a seeker of pure awareness process? There are many ideas that can describe both the territory (knowing about our inner psychological ego 'selves' energy, spiritual teachings on compassionate awareness) and methods (e.g., certain forms of contemplative, moving or mantra/chanting meditations and modern psychological Neti-Neti type practices such as Voice Dialogue.) But does understanding the territory or the methods lead to self awareness or the energetic dis-identification from whatever it is that we identify with and mistakenly take for 'me'? No. We still have only ideas - talk, not the immediate awareness process.

Being aware is a direct and unmistakable kind of self-knowing; it isn’t an idea; it isn’t a new and improved, evolved or higher self. It's not a person-experience at all! In fact, it's quite impossible to ever fully describe in words what it is to experience 'being aware of being aware.' Any understanding of 'This' is a conceptual translation of the direct and thought-less Knowing of Being. Words and ideas will point and yet ultimately fail by keeping us in our minds. For example, no matter how technical or poetic you are at describing a rose - its color, its form, its scent, its beauty, you only have technical or beautifully impressive words. You still don’t have a direct experience of a rose, its color, its scent or its feel. Words are symbols; they only point to what is real.

If we stay within the bounds of talk - or - the mind, we may feel knowledgeable and for some, knowledge of ideas is a way to feel important (“Look at how smart or wise I am!”) or to feel safe (“Confusion is scary or painful”) or even to feel real (I think, therefore I am.)

We have limited knowledge at best, since our ‘knowledge’ is based on concepts that are finite understanding of direct experience. We delude ourselves to believe that information leads to direct experience. We already have direct experience; words and concepts come afterwords.

Knowledge, thinking, talking - all keep us firmly in the realm of the mind. It's not so much that we have to 'go out of our minds', rather, we need to see through our minds to this pure Consciousness that we Are. Talk or thinking can usefully point us in a direction. It can create a kind of ‘map' that can inspire us to leap and surrender to direct experience. And having a map of the territory can be quite helpful for orienting ourselves to practice.

However, the map is not the actual territory, it’s a concept. Concepts can certainly help, but not if we talk about the map and believe that talking/ thinking about the map is the transformative, alchemical ‘cooking.' Ultimately, the map, the description itself must be left behind.

Practical experience, in the case of Voice Dialogue, is getting facilitated, engaging in dream process, recognizing and unhooking from rigidly fixed patterns. Practical experience will also correct ideas that were misunderstood. The one who ‘understands’ information before direct experience is different from the one who understands information after direct experience. Same words, different understanding.

Initially, ideas help give us a provisional understanding of experience and experience gives us a clearer understanding of the ideas. In the end, clear understanding of ideas is not the goal, ‘cooked rice,’ transformative experience is the goal. Engaging in the actual energetic experience of differentiating from whatever it is that we've been fixedly identified with is what ‘cooks the rice' (our process). This 'differentiation' is recognizing the difference between forms of HOW we are from WHAT we essentially are: Conscious Awareness. This type of engagement would fall under the category of a 'progressive path'; we're taking useful actions to have a strong potential to lead us towards a direct knowing of our essential nature: Pure Awareness.

Be in your own experience and be the knower of your experience. Cook your rice, otherwise, you eat only words.

J'aime ona Pangaia © 2014, updated 2024

Advanced Facilitator’s Group Facilitation Program
April 16 - 21, 2024

Over the past 18 years of teaching Voice Dialogue in Thailand initially without the aid of facilitation staff, I was prompted to develop this method as a way to bring the experience of
Voice Dialogue facilitation, the experience of selves and even the emergence of the aware ego process in a way that could engage 10 - 16 participants at a time. This has also served to keep all
the program participants (up to 30 people) fully engaged during facilitation demonstrations - even as the demo’s have all been done through language translation. I now regularly do a five
day program (in Thailand and in the US) for people who are already experienced with being facilitated and who want an immersion experience using this method. We call it the “The
Practice” and it’s a five day retreat for 8 people.
I had also brought this method to Hal and Sidra’s
programs in the past when I’ve staffed there and I’ve incorporated it into all my group teaching programs. I’ve demonstrated it at the Paris Convergence of Voice Dialogue teachers and I've now taught this in four separate location over the past years in Europe (England, France, Germany
and Belgium).
I have found that the way that I developed this method also serves as a powerful teaching aid, since it very clearly illustrates the relationship between power and vulnerability and the
archetypal/ universality of selves. All the participants of the group facilitation process are supported in engaging and separating from selves. There are a variety of ways to use this
method, and many will be explored in direct practice over the week.
Aim
I am enthusiastically eager to put this new method into the ‘hands’ of seasoned colleagues to use in their experiential groups and training programs. I believe that employing this group facilitation method requires a very experienced facilitator (well over 100 sessions given) since the container of the overall energetic experience is quite large. I will spend part of our time together laying out the structure of how and why I conduct this group form the way that I do, and I will demonstrate the process and further supervise the class practice sessions so that everyone can experience it from ‘the inside out.’
Teaching Methodology
• Interactive teaching from J’aime ona Pangaia
• Demonstration of Group Voice Dialogue Method and opportunities for all the facilitator group members to practice it during the workshop. All participants will directly experience it. Wednesday > Sunday is devoted to teaching and direct practice/experience of the Voice Dialogue Group Facilitation method.
• Group post- discussion of method on Sunday after lunch
As group interest dictates, there will likely continue to be future offerings of The Practice in Europe, to be announced.
Trainer
J’aime ona Pangaia has been learning, practicing, and teaching Voice Dialogue for 38years, had been an annual staff facilitator/ teacher at Hal and Sidra’s programs for 25 years and is the author of An Introduction to Voice Dialogue; Finding the Benefit of People Who Bug You, along with numerous teaching articles. http://www.VoiceDialogueWork.com and on FB: Voice Dialogue / J'aime ona Pangaia
Who can participate?
Maximum group size 8 facilitators. Requirements:
• Seasoned Voice Dialogue facilitator (ideally over 100 sessions given)
• Teaches or uses Voice Dialogue in group settings, or plans to.
• Is open to personal process
• Has the ability to laugh and have fun!
This program is sponsored by Andrea Naurath in a private home in Berlin, Germany. She will help traveling participants to find lodging within walking distance. This information will
be automatically provided to those who register. For those who are attending for their initial training in the method, or who are reviewing the initial teaching day, the program begins on Wednesday, April 16th from 10:30 - 6:30 pm and continues through Sunday at 3 pm.
Tuition for new trainees or those reviewing the initial teaching (starting on Wednesday) is $900 USD
USD, payable through PayPal
Returning group facilitators who come to engage in the Practice only, the program begins on Thursday 10:30 - 6:30 pm and continues through Sunday at 3 pm.
Tuition for returning practitioners is $750 USD, payable through PayPal.
To sign up, or contact J'aime for more information: [email protected]
To contact Andrea for logistical information: andrea.naurath@voice-dialogue-berlin.

We know that spiritual awakening is not a matter of discipline and control. Its not anything that ego accomplishes. It’s essentially an undoing. It’s effortless and spontaneous.

It’s ordinary and immanent. It’s the recognition of unhindered Beauty, wordless, inconceivable Truth, boundless, unconditional Love. Awakening is the end of ‘other’, Is the one Beingness of All.

Unexplainable Joy.

Irrepressible Kindness

Deathless Dying

Rule-less Wisdom

Impeccable Acceptance

Flowing Suchness.

Reality as Harmony AND Cacophony: This!

And still, we walk the dog, change diapers, plant our garden, write our Senators, read the comics, tell stories or poems, shake - or kiss - and make up, dance to the music, doodle; live this dream lucidly.

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I’ll be teaching a one day introduction to dream process through the lens of Voice Dialogue in this upcoming Italy training. If you are interested in learning about using Voice Dialogue in your practice, join in this program with teachers Marzia and Danni in this upcoming program, starting soon!

I’ll be there in the final 3 day module in April. 😊

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Being a three and a half decades long Voice Dialogue facilitator and teacher, I've changed, and at a core level. Better than having any answer to the question "Who am I", I have come to a better answer that reveals "What am I?"

Voice Dialogue is a consciousness process that has always been recognized by it's founders and practitioners as a 'psycho-spiritual' practice.

I'll be offering a three day program in Bangok Thailand that will focus on the spiritual potential of this practice that is in alignment with traditional and ancient Nondual spiritual philosophies.

Join me this January in this exploration which will include experiential guided meditations, teachings, readings and group discussion.