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21/02/2025
So, what do we get up to in an Equine Assisted Learning lesson?
We work with the horse - practicing cognitive, emotional, social - life skills!
Lightning thinks most things are going to eat him alive.
Puddles, objects above his head, hats, ropes, etc etc.
To help him, the handler has to be present, see the small cues and act at a time when we can find curiosity and willingness.
In this lesson we practiced empathy, patience, encouragement, task initiation, flexibility and most of all we had lots of fun and Lightning overcame “the puddle of crocodiles!”
25/10/2024
This - horsemanship is not a fight about who is the leader, but a chance to connect and walk along side our equines in a coherent, understanding way of life.
Be your horses friend, not its dictator.
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Dominance theory was a terrible mistake, that even the scientist who cataloged it, regrets doing. The deep level of misunderstanding that happened based on inappropriate studies just spiraled out of control into a culturally accepted excuse to train and work with animals with force and punishment.
Dominance theory was the idea that animals, horses included, have a linear dominance and set roles within the herd. The idea that there is a set leader, a decision maker, who controls the other horses' behaviors through threats and the other horses love this horse as their leader. The idea that horses have a linear set hierarchy that determines who's in charge and only changes if overthrown by someone stronger. These deeply flawed ideas have lead people to believe that they can be the leader horse by mimicking equine behavior, they misunderstood, justifying their use of forceful physical control and punishment to train behavior. All under the idea of being a "good leader".
The thing is, science is constantly growing and self-correcting. As we spend more time actually studying horses in various scenarios and environments, and each species individually, their family units, their herds, packs, groups, etc... We have learned this concept of dominance is wildly inaccurate and deeply unhealthy, only seen in extreme, inappropriate environments (like old overpacked zoos with many unrelated animals, as the original studies were based on).
What's really going on then? What is Dominance really? Do we need to be dominant?
Horse herds really work in a much more fluid and dynamic manner, it's not a linear hierarchy. Horses make decisions based on need, if someone has a need, they satisfy that need, the other horses stay with them out of social bonds and safety in numbers. A secure, confident horse will be more likely to make decisions that lead away from the group, while insecure, nervous horses might be less likely to make decisions, sticking more closely to the center of the herd. This isn't leadership or dominance, just confidence, in themselves and their world. This changes constantly. A confident horse may be more clingy and insecure if they have a pain problem, if they're pregnant, or if they're sick. This dynamic is constantly flowing. Who makes the decision, is up to how much the individual wants something. Who stays or goes in the herd is based on social bonds, friendships, familial relationships, and resource needs.
What was frequently mistaken as "dominance" was actually determined roles of priority access to resources. If a resource is limited, the herd knows who has first access, usually the bully. This varies by resource, my sweet itch mare has priority access to the shelter, while she doesn't care about defending food resources. She may shove everyone out of her way for shelter from bugs, but someone else may shove her out of the way for food. A group of 2 might pair up to move off a single horse who would typically move either of them individually. This access to resources is determined with little squabbles, but usually is limited to just some body language threatening gestures. It would be unhealthy if the herd were to compromise each other in fights over resources, when they have the bigger threat of predators they need to remain safe for. We only see extreme linear resource guarding in domestic settings where resources are limited. If hay is fed in limited supply one horse may always get priority access. If there isn't enough shelter, one horse may not let the others in it. This isn't dominance, but resource guarding. This isn't leadership, but the opposite, a horse who is deeply insecure in their resources, in their safety, violently defending themselves. If one horse resource guards excessively, most of the other horses avoid them, ignore them, don't want to groom with them, and don't want to risk dealing with them. They're like a human child bully, so insecure in themselves they act out against everyone else to try to soothe their need.
Ethology has also shown that horses do not think humans are horses. Even if we mimic their body language, they do not equate us as horses. We don't have a place in their access to resources, because we aren't sharing their resources. We are their PROVIDERS. We are the ones giving them their resources, it's our job to understand herd dynamics and ensure our horses have adequate resources in appropriate ways so there is no need to fighting, insecurity, or herd stress. It's not our job to challenge our horses for access to the very resources we are giving them! We are their caretakers.
Dominance and access to resources has nothing to do with training, only knowing how to provide care and management without creating unhealthy or dangerous equine interactions.
Training should be done with a compassionate understanding of behavioral science and how to apply positive reinforcement. It has nothing to do with herd dynamics or dominance, or even strong leadership, but rather clear communication, compassionate care and gentle behavior training.
Additional resources
https://www.awla.org/uncategorized/alpha-dogs-dominance-theory-fact-or-fiction/
https://www.clickertraining.com/node/2297
https://www.veterinary-practice.com/article/dominance-when-an-outdated-theory-wont-go-away
https://news.asu.edu/20210805-discoveries-myth-alpha-dog
https://journal.iaabcfoundation.org/horse-dominance-1-28/
https://www.thewillingequine.com/post/dominance-leadership
https://www.whole-dog-journal.com/behavior/debunking-the-alpha-dog-theory/
https://positively.com/dog-training/article/ethology-why-pack-theory-is-wrong
https://www.rover.com/blog/alpha-dog-meaning/?msockid=323ef8c5489068da23bbeaa549916988
https://www.veterinary-practice.com/article/dominance-when-an-outdated-theory-wont-go-away
09/10/2024
It’s not only horses you get to encounter with us 🥰 Oreo the house cow also loves cuddles and attention
25/09/2024
To think, 8 years ago I got back into owning a horse after 13 years feeling lost without one. First time in Australia and as an adult, my journey into a more natural horsemanship approach begun.
On my hunt to find a way to help and retrain my mare Koda, who I bought for myself for my 30th birthday, I started following Warwick Schiller and his training methods.
He opened my eyes and down the rabbit hole I went…
The more you learn the more you realise how little you knew 😏
I now take inspiration from many trainers, but I think it’s important to be authentic and find your own path, believes and values. This is where I am today.
This journey has made me more humble, and I know I will never stop learning. To read a horses expressions, what makes them happy, trainable and enjoying life with us humans.
What used to be frustrating is now just another insight in the depth of these amazing creatures. No horse is the same, just like us humans.
Fast forward 8 years, I am so happy that I now get to share my knowledge and time with people to help them learn from our horses. Compassion, connection, truth and presence.
I’m sitting here on my 38th birthday, pondering life, meaning and purpose.
I’m right where I want to be, right now.
Unfortunately I lost my beautiful mare Koda earlier this year and it hurts every time I touch another horse. But hey- this is life. We live we, love, we die.
She taught me so much and I will do my best to help others learn the things she taught me.
Thank you to everyone who supports and believes in my journey!
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Sanna
23/09/2024
“There is something about the outside of a horse, that is good for the inside of a man”
~ Sir Winston Churchill
02/09/2024
A combination of Equine Assisted Learnin and a chance to spend a full day on the farm, harvesting your own food, cooking, playing and meeting all the other animals at FAL.
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